Saturday, December 19, 2009

Is there a ';smokeless'; black powder substitute that is non-corosive and usible in cartridge reloading?

Im considering loading .45 colt cartridges for real shooting, not cowboy action. I would like reasonably high vilocities and I would like a powder that loads like black powder and burns/shoots like black powder.... but i would like it to have a minimal ammount of smoke and fouling.





any information that would point me in the right direction would be much apprechiated.Is there a ';smokeless'; black powder substitute that is non-corosive and usible in cartridge reloading?
There is no such thing.


All black powder substitutes smoke to a greater or lesser extent, and leave differing amounts of residue.


None of the black powder substitutes will develop nearly as much velocity or energy as smokeless powders in any cartridge, including the .45 Colt, so you might as well go that route, instead.


I know this from direct experience and experimentation.Is there a ';smokeless'; black powder substitute that is non-corosive and usible in cartridge reloading?
this doesn't make sense. Why would you want to limit yourself to a blackpowder substitute? Why not load your 45 colt cartridge with the appropraite amount of modern powders?





Pyrodex is the standard 'blackpowder substitute' and can be swapped 1 for 1 based on VOLUME, but not weight, as it is somewhat lighter than blackpowder





Triple Seven is another one, but I know less about it. It is supposed to be a low fowl blackpowder alternative, as is Clear Shot. They are both the same by VOLUME, but by weight they are about half of what blackpowder is, so when they burn, just like blackpowder they burn onyl about 50% effectively, but in the end they leave less weight of fowling because they had less weight to start, even if the volume was the same
I'm not really sure what you mean.





Just use smokeless powder and you don't have to worry about corrosive powder, fouling, or smoke. You have to be carefull on pressure depending on what kind of 45lc you have. Ruger revolvers, marlin rifles, and model 92's can handle a very stout load.


Other replicas can not.





If you are looking for a fairly clean blackpowder sub. you can try 777 or American Pioneer. It's very clean compared to Pyrodex as it doesn't gum up the revolver and you can go without cleaning it for longer than a week. But it has a lot of smoke.
I reload 45 Colt, I shoot every week. I use Unique and Bullseye for all my 45 Colt loading.





I load a Keith style 255gr lswc with 5.5gr Bullseye for moderate velocity loads. For a higher velocity I use 8.5gr Unique.
7.5 grains of Unique with a 255 grain cast RNFP on top of it. Shoots great out of my Ruger Bisley Vaquero 5 1/2'; barrel. You'll want to keep it under 1000 fps unless you use a gas-checked bullet or you'll have leading problems.
you just fixing to tear up your gun
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